Flat Earth Debunked

I hope not to expend too much energy on this subject because, all due respect, it's not worth it! By the way, I haven't blogged here for a few years because I've been blogging elsewhere, FYI.

But as to this "flat earth" movement which has sprung up suddenly in the last couple of years: It is very easily debunked in a number of different ways.

For example: We are told by "flat earth" advocates, the diameter of the Sun and Moon are "approximately 30 miles"...and that they travel across the face of the flat earth along the equator.

Ah. I see.

OK so...Barrow, Alaska, the northernmost town in Alaska, is a full five thousand six hundred miles (5600 miles) from the equator.

Look below at this photo of the Moon...which was taken in Barrow, Alaska:


Barrow, Alaska -- LINK


Looking at that Moon...is that what a 30-mile diameter looks like from 5600 miles away?

Not in a billion, trillion years. "Flat-earth theorism" is a farce...and Antichrist cabalists are laughing themselves to tears behind closed doors.

And actually, since the Moon (according to "flat earth" theories) is supposedly 3000 miles up in the air, that would mean it was actually even FURTHER away than just 5600 miles. It would be more like 6400 miles!

By the way, just to run the numbers: 6400 miles is to 30 miles what 6400 feet is to 30 feet.

And then 640 feet to 3 feet. But if we double that back to a 1280/6 ratio...that's virtually the same as looking at a 6 foot tall man from about 1280 feet (426 yards) distance...about the length of a long par 4 golf hole. If you've ever played a 426 yard par 4 on a golf course...or from military experience and/or hunting experience, know how small a man looks from a quarter mile distance...they're tiny. Teensy tiny.

If the Moon were 6400 miles away and had a diameter of 30 miles...it would barely be more than a large dot.

So...that's it then. End of the line for this zany, crazy "flat earth" mini-movement that has recently sprung up out of 'nowhere'.

The above evidence is all that is really needed.  But...just for good measure, a few more thoughts.

FOR EXAMPLE:

Commercial airliners routinely fly from Sydney (a city on the East coast of Australia) to Santiago, Chile (a city in the southern part of South America) in about 12.5 hours. A distance of about 7000 miles.

These airliners accomplish this by flying 'underneath' the globe, skirting past Antarctica, the bottom of the world. But in a "flat earth" scenario there supposedly is no "South Pole". No Antarctica.

Look below at this "flat earth" map. A concocted flat earth map, I should hasten to add. You will notice it has no South pole. Only a North pole in the center of this "earth disk". And in place of Antarctica, there is now supposedly an absolutely enormous 40,000 mile "ice wall" surrounding the outer edge of the disc.


The Sydney/Santiago commercial flights alone create enormous and insurmountable problems for the "flat earth" pseudo-concept.

For example, if Earth actually were a flat disk, the airline pilots would no longer have the convenience of flying 'underneath' the globe on an abbreviated 7000 mile journey from Sydney to Santiago. Instead, they would need to undertake a HUGE trek, clear across the face of this alleged disk...about twice the distance! 

One of the immediate problems with this is that Qantas Airlines (as one example) publicly advertises a 12.5 hour duration for its daily Sydney/Santiago flight. If the flight were actually requiring a 25 hour duration...there would be instantaneous uproar and outrage from the flying public. Legions of irate and dissatisfied customers.

But Qantas does NOT require 25 hours. It requires only 12.5 hours...because it is able to take the Antarctica shortcut. Because Earth is a globe. Because Earth is not a flat disk. Come on, people.

And where are all the stop-over destinations? Why do we not hear of a Sydney flight stopping over in Anchorage, Alaska? Or Seattle? Or San Francisco? Or Mexico City? Or any other destinations in South America on the way to Santiago, Chile?

On a flat earth, these commercial flights would need to head due "North" out of Australia towards Alaska. Instead, and as any geography buff who has ever flown this route could attest to...the airliners head directly South out of the "bottom" of Australia. towards the alleged "edge" of the world!

But wait...it gets worse: First understand that flat earth proponents make the astonishing and unrealistic claim that all 150,000 commercial pilots worldwide, in absolute steadfast perfection, participate in a vast conspiracy to cover up the "fact" of a flat earth...by falsifying all their flight statistics -- their actual miles traveled, the actual number of hours required for a given flight, their course plottings, and whatever else needs to be falsified. And not a single whistle-blower among them. Not one. Ever. 

Keep in mind...the 9/11 "false flag" event was about ten thousand times smaller in scope compared to this alleged conspiracy to cover up a "flat earth"...and yet 9/11 has had hundreds and thousands of whistle-blowers. High level military officers. High level intelligence officers. Thousands of credentialed architects, engineers, financial analyst/experts following the money trail. Top level investigative journalists. On and on.

By contrast and not surprisingly, the entire "flat earth" movement...which has emerged seemingly out of nowhere, as of a couple of years ago...is literally devoid of a single, solitary credentialed expert...of any kind.


THE MK ULTRA "LOST BOYS" BEHIND THE FLAT EARTH MINI-MOVEMENT?

Truth be told, when you look at a broad sampling of these YouTube videos, you begin to see there is this ultra-strange rag-tag bunch of foulmouthed, ill-tempered, sneering, swearing, obviously godless, raggedy-looking and apparently unemployed (or barely employed) young men...who are behind a majority of the leading "flat earth" YouTube videos. From my observation, one should barely believe they could hold down a job at Burger King.

All of this is ironic in the extreme...because of all these conservative (and well-meaning) Christian folks who have come along and tried to belatedly make this into a "Christian" movement...a "pro-Bible" movement...when in fact the bulk of the top proponents and virtually ALL of the earliest known YouTube video creators...are the FURTHEST thing from "Christian"! 

And the fact that the foundation of support on YouTube has come from this raggedy bunch of swearing, sneering, spitting misfits...is all very, very strange...unless...you understand the reality of the "lost boys". MK Ultra mind-controlled slaves who have been taken since early childhood and enlisted against their will for the purposes of satanic globalists.

Of course, that is a HUGE mouthful for any pedestrian "mainstream media" consumers who may have accidentally stumbled into this article. Those folks are now thinking "wow - this is nothing but crazy people arguing with crazy people".

I sympathize. You would need to read through substantial portions of my e-book in order to get up to speed on these kinds of things. Or at least read through my Chapter Eight which talks about former newspaper boy Jeff Gannon being kidnapped off the streets of West Des Moines, Iowa and inducted into slavery, prostitution and various other chores for the globalists.. The chapter covers numerous other related matters. 

But back to our Sydney/Santiago story.

In the case of the Sydney/Santiago flight, flat-earthers have a huge problem:

They have to explain why this flight doesn't head out of the northern top of Australia, then brush past Alaska, cut across the bulk of the continental USA, large portions of Mexico and Latin America, and any number of countries in South America...on a path to Santiago or Buenos Aires, Argentina. Notice the white line on the " flat-earth map" depiction below, going from Sydney, on the East coast of Australia...all the way to the southern part of South America.



Of course they have no good answer for this but...what some of them try to argue (nonsensically, I must add) is that these pilots who are supposedly cooperating in perfect compliance with a worldwide cover-up conspiracy...are dutifully flying roughly along the latitudinal lines that connect from Australia to South America...all of this so as to keep the 'illusion' of a globe intact (so they try to argue).  

This, they hope...explains why the airliners are not flying across Alaska and much of North America (and so on).

Notice on the flat earth map (see below), how there are two or three latitudinal lines that run from Australia to South America and take the shape of a giant half circle. Flat-earthers are claiming the airliners unfailingly travel roughly along those lines on their journey from Sydney to Santiago...for the purposes of deception.





So instead of what was already an enormous 13,000 miles (if the airliners were to fly "as the crow flies" on a straight line across the disk)...they now want us to believe the planes are traveling this absolutely staggering (estimated) 18,000 mile semi-circle along these latitudinal lines...so as to uphold the "globe myth". 

And now we would be looking at a 30-32 hour flight.  The "complaint department" for Qantas Airlines would be overwhelmed, to say the least.

(There are a handful of these "flat earth"guys who try to obnoxiously argue these airliners...unbeknownst to the rest of the world...can fly at well over MACH 2, over 1500 mph, in order to achieve the correct flight durations! Of course, they have not a shred of evidence nor a single, solitary credentialed whistle-blower who supports any of this.)


UTTER NONSENSE

These assertions about flying along latitudinal lines, by the way, are nonsense because, as you can see on the globe depiction below, airliners must travel in roughly a longitudinal direction in order to arrive at Santiago.


And so, again...if we were actually on a "flat earth", these airliners would obviously fly off the "edge" of the world and into the void...or the abyss...or the "dome wall"...(many flat-earthers make the arbitrary assertion that the "earth disk" is covered by a huge dome).

Below, you can see that on a globe, the shortest distance between the two cities is to head almost directly South out of Australia:




Notice above, how the flight pattern is well to the West of New Zealand, heading almost directly South and then virtually brushing by Antarctica on the way to Santiago. LINK

Again, the problem for "flat-earthers" is that they need to have SOME kind of explanation...as to why passengers on these Sydney/Santiago flights (with any number of amateur geography buffs among them, presumably) are not seeing the landmarks one should see on direct flights from Sydney to major cities in South America:..if Earth were a flat disk.

There should be glimpses of Alaska, or at least the Aleutian islands which jut out from Alaska towards the West for a thousand miles. These flights should be crossing over large chunks of the northwestern and southwestern United States, and/or virtually diagonally across the entirety of the USA, large portions of Mexico, Columbia, Ecuador, and Peru. 

Scroll down a couple of inches to yet another "flat earth map" depiction...and simply draw a straight line across this 'disk earth'. Those are the countries you would need to travel across to arrive at Santiago.

Instead, what passengers have noted on these flights is...passing over Macquarie Island, a geographic location that, on a globe, creates a straight line to Santiago as these airliners are passing directly 'underneath' the bottom of the globe!


AMATEUR AVIATORS

And what about all those adventurous amateur pilots setting out on a self-styled journey from (again) Sydney to Santiago? Why would they have any inclination  to follow these invisible latitude lines on a gigantic semi-circular path...if they weren't in on the "flat earth cover-up" conspiracy? 

No, these guys would simply head directly due South out of Sydney, headed towards Antarctica. Notice below, the longitude line heading directly South out of the Sydney area...and right into the 'edge of the Earth'! 

If anyone were to fly on a straight line directly South, they would fly off the edge of the world and into oblivion (or crash into a supposed "dome wall" which, as I said, many flat-earthers talk about)!



The whole subject is such craziness, pardon my frankness. It is hard to believe anyone takes this seriously. And yet...I have received so many emails in which people are buying into this and are asking me about it...and I have also run into quite a number of people on various discussion boards.


AMATEURS MARINERS

What about all those amateurs sailors who set out to cross the Pacific ocean...or the Atlantic ocean...or any other long-distance route?? 

If you plot your course on the assumption you're on a globe...when you are, in fact, on a flat disk...you would obviously never plot your course correctly. It goes without saying. And yet...time and again, all these amateur sailors plot their course on the assumption of a globe...and arrive at the correct destination.

That's all for now. I may edit in further thoughts, time permitting. There are many more readily available evidences. God bless.




13 comments:

  1. so u believe the globe is spinning and hurling through space..don't buy this either

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  2. You say that as if you think there is something inherently unbelievable about "spinning and hurling". Did you see that barrow, Alaska moon? Absolutely and utterly impossible a miniscule 30-mile wide Moon could be that big from a full 6,400 miles away.

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  3. Hi Matt!!!

    It's been a while. We communicated back around 2013 regarding the mark of the beast. I know what you say is true, I see evidence of it all over the place. John MacArthur is just one example. That is why these wolves are planted where they are, to look 'solid' for so long and then at just the right time, turn people in the wrong direction. I could go on and on. Fanatic for Jesus blog has information like yours too. Most of the blogs are archived now. Just, fyi, that Galatians 4 blog has gone off the rails (I think it was a planted operation from the getgo, many clues are evident).

    Anyway, I can't believe anyone would fall for something like what you describe on this post, but then again...

    there are so many heresies running rampant now. Undiscerning believers are falling like dominoes for all varieties of false teachings and false gospels.
    Even sound blogs have gone off the tracks.

    The point of so many of these satanic plots are to get believers off the path, to waver in holiness, sincerity, loyalty, sanctification, and connection to the Lord. They want them to slack off, fall into sin, be condemned, be ineffective, be in the flesh, in the world, lose motivation and passion and fire, not do what we are called to do, and even fall off the tracks at some point and not get there and receive our crown and so forth. Even if some don't yet get it, I always admonish them to stay the course and not waver. At least then they won't fall into the traps the devil wants them to fall into. I also try to tell them and pray that the Lord opens their eyes to it all.

    Good to hear you are well,
    God bless you brother!

    If you want to fellowship, you can email me at:
    thechurchatlydiashouse@gmail.com

    I check it but not frequently so be patient.
    (:

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  4. I agree the flat earth is not credible, just like the Sept 23 Rev 12 fiasco that just happened. With all this nonsense out there, it's no wonder that the average person treats all conspiracy theories as being the same.
    The Hoss

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  5. Hello,

    I think the below blog addresses the issues you have with flight paths, etc. that is worth looking into..

    Please make a thorough reading of the blog and do not dismiss flat-earth so quickly.

    http://www.philipstallings.com/2015/07/the-biblical-flat-earth-plane-truth.html

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  6. 9/11 was a recent conspiracy... The earth being round has been indoctrinated to us for centuries. If you were taught a lie since birth and have grown up being told that lie over and over again, then you have been a "victim" of the conspiracy and you don't even know it... There is not a single pilot who became a whistleblower since they have been conditioned to think the earth is round (which is plausible (deceptively) and therefore not worth challenging in their thinking... Would the Antichrist deceive anyone if he appeared like Satan? Would anyone believe that the earth is a trapezoid or some weird shape object? The lie shouldn't be obvious if you are going to deceive someone...

    Lord bless you.

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  7. Neither one of the above comments is addressing the simple argument that a tiny 30-mile wide moon would appear to be not much more than a large dot from 6400 miles away, up in Barrow, Alaska...and then should appear to be more than twice as large from Ecuador... if the moon were supposedly traveling at only 3000 miles altitude and with the 30 mile diameter. The Barrow, Alaska/Ecuador example is a complete slam-dunk against "flat earth". There is no rebuttal.

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  8. Have you read any of these books which were written more than 100 years ago ?

    http://www.philipstallings.com/p/books.html

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  9. You STILL haven't touched the simple logic in the opening portion of my above article regarding an alleged 30 mile wide Moon allegedly traveling at 3000 miles altitude above an alleged "flat earth" along the equator line. If this were actually happening, the moon would appear to be not much larger than a large dot from Barrow, Alaska and would appear to be about three times that size when viewed from Ecuador. But feel free to keep dodging the simple logic.

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  10. You are giving yourself away now. You have taken a supposed flight path and a "30 mile moon",where you got that you fail to say, and said its "a slam dunk" against the proposal of a flat earth. If you do so little research to make your conclusions, you throw tremendous doubt (in my mind) that you have done any real research on the subjects you purport to warn us about. Then, you resort to name-calling and assisination of character(as do most people who support a globe earth) all the while not naming a SINGLE person or siting a single source. Thank you for exposing yourself. A modicum of research would reveal to you that all water is flat. For miles and miles and miles. That the Michelson-Morely experiment proves the earth is stationary, and that if the earth is spinning at 1,000 miles per hour, your jet could take off in Australia and be in Chile in 30 minutes! Shill.

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  11. If you're not aware of the common claim among flat-earthers that the sun and moon are about 30 miles in diameter...then you're not familiar with your own flat-earth community. That has been a common claim for hundreds of years. Don't know how to help you there.

    Not that there isn't a dizzying variety of many other silly and utterly arbitrary claims about these things among flat-earthers. Granted. But the 30-ish number is HUGELY prevalent among flat-earthers. I have no idea how you've gotten that mixed up. (?)
    And yes, it IS a 'slam-dunk' against the flat-earthers, when anyone can see that the Moon appears exactly the same size from Barrow, Alaska as it does from Ecuador...when it should appear to be almost three times smaller from Barrow. Game over for flat-earth.

    What size do YOU want to claim for the sun and moon? It doesn't matter anyway! No matter what size you claim, it would STILL need to appear two and a half times (or thereabouts) smaller from Barrow as it would appear from Ecuador which presumably has the Moon traveling directly over head at about 3000 or 4000 miles altitude, depending on which arbitrary claim is being made from which pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-scientific flat-earther you're talking to. (Sorry about the bluntness.)

    There is absolutely no getting around the simple fact that the Moon would need to appear dramatically smaller from Barrow compared to Ecuador. So again, game over for "flat earth".

    And calling me a conspiratorial "shill" is pretty silly. Have you seen my other articles at this blog and at two other blogs of mine (which are linked from this blog), LOL?? I'm on every Homeland Security, DARPA, NSA, Antichrist cabal hot list in existence.

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  12. Fundamentalist Christians have to deny basic science to have their religion hold up. Many who read books on science deconvert. When I learned about the 6 epochs of life on this earth and the extensive fossil evidence beyond my IFB pastor saying Satan put dinosaur bones in the earth to fool us, I woke up. There were times on this earth where all of life was wiped out prior to dinosaurs and an epoch where life existed only in the ocean. Read this book, it may change your views.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ends-World-Apocalypses-Understand-Extinctions/dp/0062364812/ref=asc_df_0062364812/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312065538926&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=530333156376309562&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9017366&hvtargid=pla-465682446936&psc=1

    Research fossils.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os_zdvGg8sc

    There's a reason evangelicals and hard core fundies even have to deny the existence of space. It cuts down the cognitive dissonance, of a religion disproven by science.

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  13. Well, I'm on your side as far as the silliness of "flat earth" is concerned.

    But the secular sciences you're espousing fall flat right out of the gate, as far as I'm concerned -- the whole question of the Cause and Effect Principle which is part and parcel to the science of physics, and part and parcel to human logic:

    What caused the realm of nature, all that matter and energy to come into existence in the first place? Scientists who pawn that question off as a "religious question" are fantastically guilty of intellectual dishonesty.

    Uh no...it is a scientific question as well. The realm of nature (i.e. the universe) requires a 'cause' which comes from OUTSIDE the realm of nature. In other words, a cause which SUPERcedes nature. A supernatural cause.

    In other words, the very existence of the universe is supernatural...and it is literally anti-scientific to claim otherwise and/or to plead ignorance. Until humanists deal honestly with that question, they've lost me at "hello".

    Thanks for the comments!

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